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go558a83nk    364

go558a83nk
Posted ... 
lft -pINA piautos.airservers.org
Tracing ...............*...T
TTL LFT trace to connected-by.global-layer.com (134.19.178.166)/icmp
11  [174] [COGENT-154-54-16] be2780.ccr42.par01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.72.225) 52.8ms
12  [174] [COGENT-154-54-16] be12266.ccr42.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.56.173) 61.3ms
13  [174] [COGENT-EUROPEAN-OPERATIONS-001] be2154.rcr22.ams06.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.50.206) 62.1ms
14  [AS?] [NULL] 204.68.252.53 132.8ms
15  [49453] [GLOBALLAYER] connected-by.global-layer.com (37.123.210.65) 133.9ms
16  [49453] [SB-LVPSHOSTING] [target] connected-by.global-layer.com (134.19.178.166) 133.2ms
I've noticed for months that most of the time latency to the AMS servers is problematic.  This example is representative of several route tests that I did today.  Something's wrong as the latency difference between hop 12 and the endpoint should be negligible.  I hope @Staffcan look into it.  🙏

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go558a83nk    364

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lft -pINA alrai.airservers.org
Tracing ...............*...T
TTL LFT trace to connected-by.global-layer.com (213.152.162.78)/icmp
11  [174] [COGENT-154-54-16] be2780.ccr42.par01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.72.225) 52.1ms
12  [174] [COGENT-154-54-16] be12266.ccr42.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.56.173) 61.1ms
13  [174] [COGENT-EUROPEAN-OPERATIONS-001] be2154.rcr22.ams06.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.50.206) 61.4ms
14  [AS?] [NULL] 204.68.252.53 128.0ms
15  [49453] [GLOBALLAYER] connected-by.global-layer.com (37.123.210.79) 139.3ms
16  [49453] [NL-AIR] [target] connected-by.global-layer.com (213.152.162.78) 132.9ms
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Staff    10014

Staff
Posted ...

Hello!

We do not see any problem, as you can infer from https://airvpn.org/servers/Piautos/ and https://airvpn.org/servers/Alrai/ (also consider that we have excellent round trip time, like 25 ms, and no issues with mtr even from residential ISPs in Italy, go figure...).

Check the tables "latency" (it's round trip time really) to and from locations and you will see that they are normal all over the world. Does anybody else experience this problem? Please feel free to report here, on this thread.

Kind regards
 

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OpenSourcerer    1441

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I cannot build lft since the website redirects to HTTPS without port 443 being open on the webserver, but with TCP traceroute:

# traceroute -T alrai.airservers.org
traceroute to alrai.airservers.org (213.152.162.78), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
[…]
4  80.157.207.10 (80.157.207.10)  7.745 ms  7.740 ms  7.735 ms
5  ae5-2074.ams10.core-backbone.com (81.95.2.138)  13.487 ms  13.482 ms  13.476 ms
6  core-backbone.global-layer.com (80.255.15.206)  16.301 ms  21.594 ms  21.429 ms
7  connected-by.global-layer.com (37.123.210.79)  12.614 ms  12.688 ms  12.499 ms
8  connected-by.global-layer.com (213.152.162.78)  12.381 ms  12.372 ms  12.362 ms
 

I don't even get to be routed through Cogent. I suspect it's a routing thing with your ISP.

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On 8/13/2024 at 6:28 PM, Staff said:

Hello!

We do not see any problem, as you can infer from https://airvpn.org/servers/Piautos/ and https://airvpn.org/servers/Alrai/ (also consider that we have excellent round trip time, like 25 ms, and no issues with mtr even from residential ISPs in Italy, go figure...).

Check the tables "latency" (it's round trip time really) to and from locations and you will see that they are normal all over the world. Does anybody else experience this problem? Please feel free to report here, on this thread.

Kind regards
 

 
22 hours ago, OpenSourcerer said:

I cannot build lft since the website redirects to HTTPS without port 443 being open on the webserver, but with TCP traceroute:

# traceroute -T alrai.airservers.org
traceroute to alrai.airservers.org (213.152.162.78), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
[…]
4  80.157.207.10 (80.157.207.10)  7.745 ms  7.740 ms  7.735 ms
5  ae5-2074.ams10.core-backbone.com (81.95.2.138)  13.487 ms  13.482 ms  13.476 ms
6  core-backbone.global-layer.com (80.255.15.206)  16.301 ms  21.594 ms  21.429 ms
7  connected-by.global-layer.com (37.123.210.79)  12.614 ms  12.688 ms  12.499 ms
8  connected-by.global-layer.com (213.152.162.78)  12.381 ms  12.372 ms  12.362 ms
 

I don't even get to be routed through Cogent. I suspect it's a routing thing with your ISP.

Well, that's what I intended to do was point fingers at Cogent or GlobalLayer.  The trace clearly shows the problem is with them and not even my ISP as the latency to Paris and Amsterdam (hops 11 and 12) is normal.

But just for more information for Staff, here is the info from the routes checker for all the Air servers back to me :)  You'll see that all the AMS servers have abnormally high (about twice as high) latency compared to other European locations. 
Server Country Location Routed to Ping HTTP Resolve Last check
atAlderamin Austria Vienna Direct Yes0.0637 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
atBeemim Austria Vienna Direct Yes0.0627 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
atCaelum Austria Vienna Direct No Fail No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
beCapricornus Belgium Brussels Direct Yes0.0620 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
beCastor Belgium Brussels Direct Yes0.0620 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
beColumba Belgium Brussels Direct Yes0.0626 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
beDiadema Belgium Brussels Direct Yes0.0621 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
beMebsuta Belgium Brussels Direct Yes0.0620 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
bgApus Bulgaria Sofia Direct Yes0.0757 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
bgGrus Bulgaria Sofia Direct Yes0.0757 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
bgWazn Bulgaria Sofia Direct Yes0.0781 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
brFulu Brazil Sao Paulo Direct Yes0.2302 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
caLacerta Canada Montreal Direct Yes0.1411 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
caRoss Canada Montreal Direct Yes0.1406 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
caAgena Canada Toronto, Ontario Direct Yes0.1385 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
caAlhena Canada Toronto, Ontario Direct Yes0.1393 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
caAlkurhah Canada Toronto, Ontario Direct Yes0.1379 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
caAludra Canada Toronto, Ontario Direct Yes0.1405 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
caAlwaid Canada Toronto, Ontario Direct Yes0.1391 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
caAlya Canada Toronto, Ontario Direct Yes0.1388 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
caAngetenar Canada Toronto, Ontario Direct Yes0.1397 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
caArkab Canada Toronto, Ontario Direct Yes0.1383 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
caAvior Canada Toronto, Ontario Direct Yes0.1399 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
caCephei Canada Toronto, Ontario Direct Yes0.1381 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
caChort Canada Toronto, Ontario Direct Yes0.1390 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
caEnif Canada Toronto, Ontario Direct Yes0.1392 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
caGorgonea Canada Toronto, Ontario Direct Yes0.1388 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
caLesath Canada Toronto, Ontario Direct Yes0.1387 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
caMintaka Canada Toronto, Ontario Direct Yes0.1391 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
caRegulus Canada Toronto, Ontario Direct Yes0.1389 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
caRotanev Canada Toronto, Ontario Direct Yes0.1392 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
caSadalbari Canada Toronto, Ontario Direct Yes0.1388 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
caSaiph Canada Toronto, Ontario Direct Yes0.1389 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
caSargas Canada Toronto, Ontario Direct Yes0.1381 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
caSharatan Canada Toronto, Ontario Direct Yes0.1394 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
caSualocin Canada Toronto, Ontario Direct Yes0.1387 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
caTegmen Canada Toronto, Ontario Direct Yes0.1387 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
caTejat Canada Toronto, Ontario Direct Yes0.1385 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
caTyl Canada Toronto, Ontario Direct Yes0.0000 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
caUkdah Canada Toronto, Ontario Direct Yes0.1384 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
caWurren Canada Toronto, Ontario Direct Yes0.1416 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
caGinan Canada Vancouver Direct Yes0.1860 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
caNahn Canada Vancouver Direct Yes0.1883 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
caPisces Canada Vancouver Direct Yes0.1865 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
caSham Canada Vancouver Direct Yes0.1862 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
caTelescopium Canada Vancouver Direct Yes0.1901 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
caTitawin Canada Vancouver Direct Yes0.1871 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
chAchernar Switzerland Zurich Direct Yes0.0518 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
chAchird Switzerland Zurich Direct Yes0.0000 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
chBaiten Switzerland Zurich Direct Yes0.0527 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
chDorado Switzerland Zurich Direct Yes0.0516 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
chHamal Switzerland Zurich Direct Yes0.0510 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
chKitalpha Switzerland Zurich Direct Yes0.0580 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
chSextans Switzerland Zurich Direct Yes0.0504 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
chSirrah Switzerland Zurich Direct Yes0.0555 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
chXuange Switzerland Zurich Direct Yes0.0606 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
czCentaurus Czech Republic Prague Direct Yes0.0681 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
czMarkab Czech Republic Prague Direct Yes0.0691 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
czTurais Czech Republic Prague Direct Yes0.0690 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
czZuben Czech Republic Prague Direct Yes0.0912 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
deCujam Germany Berlin Direct Yes0.0633 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
deTaiyi Germany Berlin Direct Yes0.0657 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
deAdhara Germany Frankfurt Direct Yes0.0628 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
deAlsephina Germany Frankfurt Direct Yes0.0631 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
deCervantes Germany Frankfurt Direct Yes0.0620 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
deDubhe Germany Frankfurt Direct Yes0.0601 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
deErrai Germany Frankfurt Direct Yes0.0620 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
deIntercrus Germany Frankfurt Direct Yes0.0602 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
deMenkalinan Germany Frankfurt Direct Yes0.0621 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
deMirfak Germany Frankfurt Direct Yes0.0626 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
deMirzam Germany Frankfurt Direct Yes0.0627 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
deOgma Germany Frankfurt Direct Yes0.0635 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
deSerpens Germany Frankfurt Direct Yes0.0597 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
deTucana Germany Frankfurt Direct Yes0.0607 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
deVeritate Germany Frankfurt Direct Yes0.0592 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
deMesarthim Germany Munich Direct Yes0.0621 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
eeAlruba Estonia Tallinn Direct Yes0.0951 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
esEridanus Spain Barcelona Direct Yes0.0643 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
esMekbuda Spain Madrid Direct Yes0.0652 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
esTaurus Spain Madrid Direct Yes0.0635 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
gbAlathfar United Kingdom London Direct Yes0.0645 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
gbAlshain United Kingdom London Direct Yes0.0649 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
gbArion United Kingdom London Direct Yes0.0659 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
gbAsterion United Kingdom London Direct Yes0.0650 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
gbBetelgeuse United Kingdom London Direct Yes0.0650 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
gbCarinae United Kingdom London Direct Yes0.0647 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
gbDenebola United Kingdom London Direct Yes0.0646 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
gbGeminorum United Kingdom London Direct Yes0.0666 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
gbKitel United Kingdom London Direct Yes0.0647 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
gbAsterope United Kingdom Manchester Direct Yes0.0704 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
gbChow United Kingdom Manchester Direct Yes0.0714 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
gbNaos United Kingdom Manchester Direct Yes0.0699 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
gbNashira United Kingdom Manchester Direct Yes0.0712 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
gbOrbitar United Kingdom Manchester Direct Yes0.0701 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
gbWesterlund United Kingdom Manchester Direct No Fail No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
ieMinchir Ireland Dublin Direct Yes0.0657 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
jpAinalrami Japan Tokyo Direct Yes0.2701 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
jpAlbaldah Japan Tokyo Direct Yes0.2663 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
jpBharani Japan Tokyo Direct Yes0.2686 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
jpBiham Japan Tokyo Direct Yes0.2767 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
jpFleed Japan Tokyo Direct Yes0.2780 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
jpIskandar Japan Tokyo Direct Yes0.2738 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
jpOkab Japan Tokyo Direct Yes0.2740 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
jpTaphao Japan Tokyo Direct Yes0.2723 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
lvFelis Latvia Riga Direct Yes0.0871 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
lvMeissa Latvia Riga Direct Yes0.0858 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
lvPhact Latvia Riga Direct Yes0.0869 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
lvSchedir Latvia Riga Direct Yes0.0870 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlAlchiba Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1290 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
nlAlcyone Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1301 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlAljanah Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1300 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
nlAlphard Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1262 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlAlphecca Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1295 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlAlpheratz Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1244 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlAlphirk Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1253 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlAlrai Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1296 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlAlshat Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1249 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlAlterf Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1308 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlAlzirr Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1303 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
nlAncha Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1318 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlAndromeda Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1289 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlAnser Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.0001 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlAsellus Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1291 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlAspidiske Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1302 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlAtik Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1309 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlCanis Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1288 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
nlCapella Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1285 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
nlCaph Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1286 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlCelaeno Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1286 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlChara Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1285 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlComae Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1288 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
nlCrater Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1303 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
nlCygnus Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1288 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
nlDalim Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1377 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlDiphda Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1308 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlEdasich Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1298 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlElnath Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1297 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlEltanin Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1320 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
nlGarnet Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1295 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlGianfar Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1311 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlGienah Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1292 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
nlHassaleh Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1251 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlHorologium Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1269 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlHyadum Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1295 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlHydrus Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1285 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
nlJabbah Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1308 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlKajam Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1311 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlKocab Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1290 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
nlLarawag Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1292 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlLuhman Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1290 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlMaasym Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1287 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlMatar Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1286 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlMelnick Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1292 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlMenkent Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1291 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlMerga Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1256 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlMirach Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1286 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlMiram Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1291 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlMuhlifain Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1308 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlMuscida Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1305 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
nlMusica Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1267 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlNash Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1298 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlOrion Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1299 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlPhaet Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1306 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlPiautos Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1304 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlPiscium Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1246 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlPleione Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1289 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
nlPyxis Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1289 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
nlRukbat Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1302 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlSadr Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1304 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlSalm Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1309 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlScuti Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1281 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlSheliak Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1307 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlSitula Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1300 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlSubra Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1291 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlSuhail Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1284 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlTalitha Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1301 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlTarazed Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1258 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlTiaki Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1290 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlTianyi Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1288 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nlZibal Netherlands Alblasserdam Direct Yes0.1296 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
noCamelopardalis Norway Oslo Direct Yes0.0843 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
noCepheus Norway Oslo Direct Yes0.0818 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
noFomalhaut Norway Oslo Direct Yes0.0817 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
noGemini Norway Oslo Direct Yes0.1097 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
noOphiuchus Norway Oslo Direct Yes0.0831 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nzFawaris New Zealand Auckland Direct Yes0.2952 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
nzTianguan New Zealand Auckland Direct Yes0.3482 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
roAlamak Romania Bucharest Direct Yes0.0785 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
roCanes Romania Bucharest Direct Yes0.0777 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
rsAlnitak Serbia Belgrade Direct Yes0.0693 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
rsMarsic Serbia Belgrade Direct Yes0.0701 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
seAin Sweden Stockholm Direct Yes0.2068 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
seCopernicus Sweden Stockholm Direct Yes0.0773 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
seLupus Sweden Stockholm Direct Yes0.0783 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
seNorma Sweden Stockholm Pending, please refresh.
seAlbali Sweden Uppsala Direct Yes0.0859 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
seAlgieba Sweden Uppsala Direct Yes0.0873 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
seAlgorab Sweden Uppsala Direct Yes0.0834 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
seAlrami Sweden Uppsala Direct Yes0.0876 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
seAlula Sweden Uppsala Direct Yes0.0865 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
seAtria Sweden Uppsala Direct Yes0.0875 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
seAzmidiske Sweden Uppsala Direct Yes0.0873 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
seBenetnasch Sweden Uppsala Direct Yes0.0874 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
seMenkab Sweden Uppsala Direct Yes0.0841 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
seMuphrid Sweden Uppsala Direct Yes0.0878 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
sgAntares Singapore Singapore Direct Yes0.1735 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
sgAuriga Singapore Singapore Pending, please refresh.
sgCircinus Singapore Singapore Direct Yes0.2694 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
sgDelphinus Singapore Singapore Direct Yes0.2759 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
sgHydra Singapore Singapore Direct Yes0.2767 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
sgLacaille Singapore Singapore Direct Yes0.1837 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
sgLuyten Singapore Singapore Direct Yes0.2941 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
sgStruve Singapore Singapore Direct Yes0.1755 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
sgTriangulum Singapore Singapore Direct Yes0.2855 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
usHercules United States Atlanta, Georgia Direct Yes0.1492 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
usLibra United States Atlanta, Georgia Direct Yes0.1568 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
usMusca United States Atlanta, Georgia Direct Yes0.1562 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
usSculptor United States Atlanta, Georgia Direct Yes0.1480 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
usUrsa United States Atlanta, Georgia Direct Yes0.1515 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
usFang United States Chicago, Illinois Direct Yes0.1496 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
usKruger United States Chicago, Illinois Direct Yes0.1483 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
usPraecipua United States Chicago, Illinois Direct Yes0.1498 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
usSneden United States Chicago, Illinois Direct Yes0.1482 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
usSuperba United States Chicago, Illinois Direct Yes0.1486 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
usChamaeleon United States Dallas, Texas Direct Yes0.1555 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
usEquuleus United States Dallas, Texas Direct Yes0.1514 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
usHelvetios United States Dallas, Texas Direct Yes0.1526 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
usLeo United States Dallas, Texas Direct Yes0.1540 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
usMensa United States Dallas, Texas Direct Yes0.1558 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
usPegasus United States Dallas, Texas Direct Yes0.1578 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
usRan United States Dallas, Texas Direct Yes0.1533 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
usScutum United States Dallas, Texas Direct Yes0.1558 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
usVolans United States Dallas, Texas Direct Yes0.1563 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
usVulpecula United States Dallas, Texas Direct Yes0.1546 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
usSadachbia United States Denver, Colorado Direct Yes0.1671 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
usAquila United States Fremont, California Direct Yes0.1798 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
usGroombridge United States Los Angeles Direct Yes0.2073 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
usSaclateni United States Los Angeles Direct Yes0.1948 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
usTeegarden United States Los Angeles Direct Yes0.1954 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
usAladfar United States Miami Direct Yes0.1639 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
usAscella United States Miami Direct Yes0.1600 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
usChertan United States Miami Direct Yes0.1644 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
usElkurud United States Miami Direct Yes0.1589 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
usGiausar United States Miami Direct Yes0.1629 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
usMeleph United States Miami Direct Yes0.1653 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
usHaedus United States New York City Direct Yes0.1277 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
usIklil United States New York City Direct Yes0.1264 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
usLich United States New York City Direct Yes0.1209 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
usMetallah United States Pennsylvania Direct Yes0.1404 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
usBootes United States Phoenix, Arizona Direct Yes0.1966 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
usChalawan United States Phoenix, Arizona Direct Yes0.1945 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
usIndus United States Phoenix, Arizona Direct Yes0.1946 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
usPhoenix United States Phoenix, Arizona Direct Yes0.1995 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
usVirgo United States Phoenix, Arizona Direct Yes0.1998 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
usPolis United States Raleigh, North Carolina Direct Yes0.1284 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
usBunda United States San Jose, California Direct Yes0.1904 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 5 minutes ago
usImai United States San Jose, California Direct Yes0.1905 sec No Fail (no connect) 0.0000 sec 6 minutes ago
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17 hours ago, Staff said:

Does anybody else experience this problem? Please feel free to report here, on this thread.


No problems for me from the Netherlands, residential landline. Today I am in Belgium, different mobile ISP, no probs. No problems from my VPS in Ireland (AWS).
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31 minutes ago, Staff said:
@go558a83nk

Check this table for each NL server (in the screenshot: Piautos) to verify that the problem is on your ISP side only.
 
Screenshot_20240814_114750.thumb.png.f31736d2c82f361178d9467067f8d886.png

As I said, the problem is obviously with Cogent.  Are they my ISP or yours?  And if the problem were on my end why would only the AMS servers be abnormally latent for me as seen above?

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Looked at this some more using https://bgp.he.net/traceroute/
  

Traceroute from 50.7.176.70 to 134.19.179.210
Using GLOBALPING, Probe 56112cb6-e168-5c3c-81c2-968fd9bdec55

STARTED QUERY AT 2024/08/14 10:36:06 UTC
traceroute to 134.19.179.210 (134.19.179.210), 20 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  10.10.10.1 (10.10.10.1)  1.675 ms  1.620 ms
 2  be4671.rcr21.b047839-0.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com (149.14.141.25)  1.020 ms  1.032 ms
 3  be2796.ccr42.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.58.125)  1.598 ms  1.738 ms
 4  be2154.rcr22.ams06.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.50.206)  2.302 ms  2.555 ms
 5  204.68.252.53 (204.68.252.53)  2.210 ms  2.212 ms
 6  connected-by.global-layer.com (37.123.210.71)  8.296 ms  8.301 ms
 7  connected-by.global-layer.com (134.19.179.210)  1.479 ms  1.493 ms

Completed in 2.07s

And from my ISP:
  
lft -pINA dalim.airservers.org
Tracing ...............*...T
TTL LFT trace to connected-by.global-layer.com (134.19.179.210)/icmp
11  [174] [COGENT-154-54-16] be2780.ccr42.par01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.72.225) 52.1ms
12  [174] [COGENT-154-54-16] be12266.ccr42.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.56.173) 60.5ms
13  [174] [COGENT-EUROPEAN-OPERATIONS-001] be2154.rcr22.ams06.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.50.206) 61.3ms
14  [AS?] [NULL] 204.68.252.53 128.1ms
15  [49453] [GLOBALLAYER] connected-by.global-layer.com (37.123.210.71) 137.6ms
16  [49453] [GLOBALLAYER] [target] connected-by.global-layer.com (134.19.179.210) 131.9ms

Note how both go through 130.117.50.206 and 204.68.252.53 as they make their way to the endpoint.  Now, for me, 52ms to Paris and 60ms to AMS is normal - the abnormal latency starts after.  But for the ping from globalping there's no big jump in latency between 130.117.50.206 and 204.68.252.53 like there is for me. 

Remember, the routes test of all the servers showed abnormal latency to my ISP only for AMS servers.  So, there seems to be some relegation by Cogent to and from my ISP or my region, etc.

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1 hour ago, go558a83nk said:

As I said, the problem is obviously with Cogent. 


Please feel free to contact your ISP for the alleged issue with Cogent.

If you need more info, this is our provider with AS49453, see also https://www.peeringdb.com/net/5372 for the public peering exchange points and interconnection facilities. Also Cogent does not serve IP transit to our Alblasserdam servers or AMS-IX directly or the other exchange points we rely on, so it's a serious misfortune that you need Cogent to reach the servers.

We can't help you directly, we're sorry, but we can help you indirectly by showing that the problem is not on our side of the infrastructure and by providing you with the relevant data to have your ISP investigate. It must also be said that Cogent has a sky high amount of peering disputes and malfunctions, please check https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cogent_Communications. It may be relevant in some cases (check NTT for example).

Kind regards
 

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