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I recently told a friend (who is using a different VPN service) about AirVPN and your privacy policy and he pointed out some concerns about Leaseweb USA.

He specifically mentioned the VPN service he uses (ivpn.net) and the comment on their site "Are you comfortable with Leaseweb Usa recording every site you visit? The data retention laws in Anonymous Proxy may require your ISP to record and archive your data for up to 10 years."

Does Leaseweb keep a record of sites despite the fact AirVPN does not keep logs? Are we compromising privacy by using US servers tunneled through Leaseweb?

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I recently told a friend (who is using a different VPN service) about AirVPN and your privacy policy and he pointed out some concerns about Leaseweb USA.

He specifically mentioned the VPN service he uses (ivpn.net) and the comment on their site "Are you comfortable with Leaseweb Usa recording every site you visit? The data retention laws in Anonymous Proxy may require your ISP to record and archive your data for up to 10 years."

Hello!

We don't know about any data retention law, and not even about any law, in the Anonymous Proxy. :)

Currently there's no data retention law in the USA. The last attempt to approve a law which would mandate data retention failed years ago. Please see also:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommunications_data_retention#United_States

The comment this admin sees on that site is "Are you comfortable with Leaseweb BV..." which again is deeply incorrect (please see the data retention directive, 2006/24/EC).

Apparently that site has a page which automatically shows your ISP (this admin connected to their site from Leporis) and adds "logging...", and this explains why you get the very funny message "...laws in Anonymous Proxy..." :D

Does Leaseweb keep a record of sites despite the fact AirVPN does not keep logs? Are we compromising privacy by using US servers tunneled through Leaseweb?

No, we're not aware of that, anyway it is irrelevant, because the web sites visited from one of our servers in any Leaseweb server would be recorded as visited by us, not by our customers. Any correlation with our customers' traffic is destroyed.

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https://www.privatvpn.se/en/faq

8. Do you log any IP numbers on the server in the U.S.?

Yes, we log IP numbers on the server in the U.S.. This is because the laws of the United States.

fake??

what you guys think this is vpn Liar?

Hello!

Yes, fake. Interestingly enough no law is cited. A brief but good overview of the data retention laws in the USA is in the Wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommunications_data_retention#United_States

On top of that, we can cite Title 18 of the United States Code, Section 2703(f), that states that: "A provider of wire or electronic communications services or a remote computing service, upon the request of a government entity, shall take all necessary steps to preserve records and other records in its possession pending the issuance of a court order or other process." So "a government entity" may oblige a provider to NOT destroy logs (pending an investigation), IF those logs exist, for 90 days (renewable for additional 90 days), without a court order. In order to force a provider to keep recorded logs (again, if they exist) for more than 180 days, a court order is necessary.

The requirement for data preservation does not require a service provider to collect data prospectively, nor does it permit the preservation of everything in a service provider’s systems – only the information that related to a specific investigation, IF those information were already available. The United States also does not require ISPs to routinely destroy or retain communications data. ISPs are free to destroy or retain communications data as they each choose, based upon their own assessments, resources, needs and limitation.

An up to date situation on data retention laws in the world is kept by the Electronic Frontier Foundation. About the USA, please see here:

https://www.eff.org/issues/mandatory-data-retention/us

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"Are you comfortable with ____________ recording every site you visit? The data retention laws in ________________ may require your ISP to record and archive your data for up to 10 years." :laugh:

Not to worry, it's just some script on that site that checks the visitor's IP address in the Maxmind IP<>ISP database, where the first line displays the name of the ISP, and the 2nd line shows the name of the country... or in this case it comes up as code A1 for "Anonymous Proxy".

Try for yourself... no matter what IP address/proxy/VPN you use, whenever you visit that site it's just going to fill in the blanks with whatever ISP and country name is in their database... so in other words, it's a false alarm.

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