Overview

[Staff 9973]

Overview

We host a XMPP (Jabber) server, with A-A security rating. We recommend to use only OTR compatible client.

It's available for free to every member of this website.

This forum is open to already available or new guides, tutorials or discussions (even about XEP).

Recommended client

OS X: Adium
Windows, Linux: Pidgin
Android: Xabber

[ovsienko 1]

Very good news!

why not to make it open for everyone?! xmpp traffic is low

[fysh 3]

Is there a MUC service also?

 

Somewhere everyone can hangout, with different rooms covering different topics of interest?

[InactiveUser 188]

Is there a MUC service also?

 

Somewhere everyone can hangout, with different rooms covering different topics of interest?

 

 

Yes! The AirVPN XMPP server does allow its users to create chat rooms. This feature has not seen much usage yet but you can try it out by joining the room "lounge" or by creating your own room.

[fysh 3]

 

Is there a MUC service also?

 

Somewhere everyone can hangout, with different rooms covering different topics of interest?

 

 

Yes! The AirVPN XMPP server does allow its users to create chat rooms. This feature has not seen much usage yet but you can try it out by joining the room "lounge" or by creating your own room.

 

Cheers sheivoko, found it now.

 

Hopefully it'll gain some pace over time!

[kingzero 3]

We host a XMPP (Jabber) server, with A-A security rating. We recommend to use only OTR compatible client.

Its now a B-B rating.

[Staff 9973]

 

We host a XMPP (Jabber) server, with A-A security rating. We recommend to use only OTR compatible client.

Its now a B-B rating.

 

 

Hello!

 

Sorry for the delay.

It was downgraded to B rating due to a new DH size limit for A rating.

We upgraded our ejabberd to 15.10 and applied a 2048 bit DH key (4096 bit sizes have compatibility issues).

 

Now it's again A-A rating.

 

Kind regards

[Ricnvolved1956 51]

A version for iOS?

[zhang888 1066]

A version for iOS?

 

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/chatsecure-encrypted-messenger/id464200063?mt=8

[Anarchy-X 1]

What I had to do to login with Pidgin 2.12.0 on Xubuntu 18.04.3 was fill out connect server: under [Advanced} with xmpp.airvpn.org.

[Terry Stanford 11]

Only just seen this thread! Great to hear you have a server! I haven't used xmpp much because I always doubted the server owners, but if Air runs one, I am IN
If we assume we can trust Air completely (I do), I would think is comparable to Signal in terms of privacy? At least better than Wire which I use currently?!

[OpenSourcerer 1435]

16 hours ago, Terry Stanford said:

If we assume we can trust Air completely (I do), I would think is comparable to Signal in terms of privacy? At least better than Wire which I use currently?!

No, because XMPP is usually unencrypted by default. You need to explicitly turn that on.
And also no because the server is unfederated and therefore communication is only possible between AirVPN users.

[Terry Stanford 11]

ah yes sorry, so assuming we have OMEMO or similar turned on both ends, it would be pretty good I think.
 

[OpenSourcerer 1435]

Since OMEMO is an implementation of the protocol Signal uses, yes, it's on par with Signal, barring implementation errors, that is.

[the fl00f next door 1]

Good to see that there is a XMPP (aka Jabber) server. Sad that it did not federate as I run my own Prosody based. Basically XMPP works great in daily use (with OTR and OMEMO). The notification using iOS is a little tricky. 

[SurprisedItWorks 49]

Took me 20 min to set up an account, because I did not guess that I needed to touch the already-lit checkmark when done.  Then I finally realized I could not make up a password for this service and would need to use my Air account password.  Entering my Air password in a non-Air (iOS) app is a nonstarter for me securitywise - who is this app developer Chris Ballinger? - so I deleted the app and made a pot of tea.

I'll be rooting for this new service to fail so that things stay in the forum where I can see them.  Sorry.

[the fl00f next door 1]

3 hours ago, SurprisedItWorks said:

Entering my Air password in a non-Air (iOS) app is a nonstarter for me securitywise - who is this app developer Chris Ballinger? - so I deleted the app and made a pot of tea.

No idea who is it as I have no idea which app you used. On the other hand, why you trust Apple and you seriously have for all used services a iOS app from the service providers. Is a long topic to discuss in detail but you have to trust on basic things like the app store of Apple.

Maybe the service fails here but it is a good service outside here with a small foodprint on a home router (just imagine WhatsApp started using Jabber / XMPP using ejabberd).

But yes, Monal which is a OMEMO only app and - as it looks - it did not handle all things as it should, it complains about missing DNS records. And also about syncing problems.

[OpenSourcerer 1435]

2 hours ago, nawi said:

just imagine WhatsApp started using Jabber / XMPP using ejabberd

Source?
 

5 hours ago, SurprisedItWorks said:

I'll be rooting for this new service to fail so that things stay in the forum where I can see them.  Sorry.

Salty today, are we? If you don't see the value of a service, don't use it. Live and let live. People looking from other corners of the world see the world differently.

[the fl00f next door 1]

24 minutes ago, OpenSourcerer said:

Source?

If that is a double post, sorry but Safari say‘s goodbye during posting. 

https://www.process-one.net/blog/whatsapp-facebook-erlang-and-realtime-messaging-it-all-started-with-ejabberd/

https://codetiburon.com/create-chat-app-like-whatsapp/

[SurprisedItWorks 49]

Yeah, bit salty today indeed.
And for clarification, the app was ChatSecure Messenger, which someone above linked to in the App store.  But it looks to me like the issue I had with it is going to be there for any app not created by Air or at least recommended by them.  Same reason I stopped using tthe DNSCloak app awhile back.  No known-trustworthy provenance, which matters if I'm going to expose my entire DNS-lookup history.

[OpenSourcerer 1435]

11 hours ago, nawi said:

If that is a double post, sorry but Safari say‘s goodbye during posting. 

https://www.process-one.net/blog/whatsapp-facebook-erlang-and-realtime-messaging-it-all-started-with-ejabberd/

https://codetiburon.com/create-chat-app-like-whatsapp/

Oh, I misinterpreted your previous post as "they recently started using ejabberd". You're right, they did start with it, but today use Erlang OTP with Facebook networking. TIL. Thank you

[the fl00f next door 1]

28 minutes ago, OpenSourcerer said:

[ … ] but today use Erlang OTP with Facebook networking. TIL. Thank you

Welcome. Yes, otherwise (if the systems would still be open to the world) their business model would not work. 

OT : On the other hand it shows what FLOSS software could do for the community and which things are possible. For example the http://libertree.org/ project shows that it is possible to use XMPP to federate social media instances. (https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Libertree with the original but dead link of the above project).