Pure VPN buy with VPN & and they Ask for ID or Phone Verification

Evono

I found this info here

https://www.reddit.com/r/VPN/comments/4j3cna/purevpn_disconnect_your_vpn_or_enter_phone_number/

and somewhere else ( probably there too ) i heard the same with ID pictures.

So they actually straight Force their costumers to give out information else they cant use their vpn anymore

So you cant buy them anonymous .

OpenSourcerer

No worries!

Evono

No worries!

haha ye best quote of the message xD

cm0s

totally concur with Evono

I did go through them looking for an Australian server at one point didn't get through with the payment but I figured it gave you 3 options to make the purchase with?

DoubleH

Hi,

First: i'm new at this forum....so, this is my first post here

I used the offer last year (buy one get two years) and paid while using another VPN (Testing VPN Provider at the time ).

You can use an VPN while paying (in my Case BTC), but I wouldn't recommend it because i can't get rid of the DNS Leaks (Tested with several Countries, running Linux with openvpn). The only advantage i saw at this time was the Server Speed.

DH

BSoD

I got a "lifetime" subscription for USD 59 from stacksocial now it is I believe USD 99.

And I believe I did use a VPN to buy it and did not need to verify anything.

Very handy because of the many countries but they keep metadata so I used NordVPN for the last year and am now testing AirVPN for the upcoming year.

Also services like netflix only work on specific servers instead of over their (entire ??) network.

zhang888

I got a "lifetime" subscription for USD 59 from stacksocial now it is I believe USD 99.
And I believe I did use a VPN to buy it and did not need to verify anything.

Very handy because of the many countries but they keep metadata so I used NordVPN for the last year and am now testing AirVPN for the upcoming year.
Also services like netflix only work on specific servers instead of over their (entire ??) network.

These countries are fake. It's just whois tricks that made MaxMind list them in those countries. The real locations

are mix of U.S. and NL.

BSoD

First I'm not defending PureVPN but just pointing out a few a facts.

When you ping their server in sweden you get 23.247.232.131 which resolves according to various databases (used https://www.iplocation.net/) to sweden (MaxMind included).

So do I have to assume they used this trick by multiple services ? Also how does that exactly work ? I am very interested in these kind of things.

Also even if it is a whois trick they can bypass geo-blocking. However for certain services you do need specific services instead of the geo-routing from AirVPN which I prefer.

So when I'm abroad I like to use PureVPN to watch tv from my home country and this one isn't added to Air yet.

zhang888

This is not in Sweden, and it's a good example of fake locations on most of their nodes.

This IP is actually located in Atlanta (GA) a Micfo LLC (AS53889)

Traceroute from a real Sweden location:

3 217.64.32.245 (217.64.32.245) 96.778 ms 96.718 ms 96.906 ms
4 87.236.158.50 (87.236.158.50) 97.573 ms 98.897 ms 97.011 ms
5 212.73.248.53 (212.73.248.53) 96.916 ms 97.355 ms 97.070 ms
6 ae-111-3501.bar1.stockholm1.level3.net (4.69.158.241) 105.387 ms 106.294 ms
    ae-112-3502.bar1.stockholm1.level3.net (4.69.158.245) 214.608 ms
7 ae-113-3503.bar1.stockholm1.level3.net (4.69.158.249) 141.535 ms *
    ae-114-3504.bar1.stockholm1.level3.net (4.69.158.253) 106.195 ms
8 be3045.ccr21.sto01.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.14.5) 105.768 ms 105.461 ms 106.565 ms
9 be2396.ccr21.sto03.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.50.121) 106.262 ms 185.937 ms
    be2397.ccr22.sto03.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.50.129) 169.159 ms
10 be2281.ccr41.ham01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.63.1) 159.786 ms
    be2282.ccr42.ham01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.72.105) 156.138 ms 119.815 ms
11 be2815.ccr41.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.38.205) 134.624 ms 138.306 ms
    be2816.ccr42.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.38.209) 135.242 ms
12 be12194.ccr41.lon13.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.56.93) 212.467 ms 271.243 ms
    be12488.ccr42.lon13.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.51.41) 409.826 ms
13 * be2317.ccr41.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.30.185) 405.239 ms
    be2493.ccr22.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.42.97) 409.782 ms
14 be2806.ccr41.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.40.106) 409.120 ms
    be2096.ccr42.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.30.41) 210.170 ms 209.595 ms
15 * be2807.ccr42.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.40.110) 308.191 ms
    be2112.ccr41.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.7.158) 406.579 ms
16 be2847.ccr41.atl04.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.6.102) 232.204 ms
    be2113.ccr42.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.24.222) 227.740 ms
    be2847.ccr41.atl04.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.6.102) 336.030 ms
17 38.140.124.34 (38.140.124.34) 633.254 ms 252.289 ms
    be2848.ccr41.atl04.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.6.118) 231.269 ms
18 38.140.124.34 (38.140.124.34) 408.712 ms
    155.254.254.2 (155.254.254.2) 231.600 ms 408.902 ms
19 * * *
20 * * *

Same goes for most of locations on junk providers including this one. Might be good for your streaming

services, but unless it is clearly stated that it involves cheating of various GeoIP databases, this is a very

bad business strategy (actually defrauding your customers) so you cannot compare such providers with Air.

Happy if it suites your needs in any case.

BSoD

From PureVPN Sweden to sweden.se

Tracing route to sweden.se [31.192.231.167]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 35 ms 35 ms 35 ms swe-net-ip.as51430.net [79.142.79.131]
2 35 ms 36 ms 35 ms swe-net-ip.as51430.net [37.46.121.1]
3 37 ms 36 ms 36 ms eth-1-11-altushost.ds1.pe1.sto1.se.portlane.net [80.67.0.160]
4 36 ms 36 ms 36 ms be5.cr1.sto1.se.portlane.net [80.67.4.198]
5 51 ms 50 ms 101 ms po-6.vbdc-cr1.glesys.net [193.108.196.44]
6 45 ms 45 ms 43 ms te-6-4.fbg-cr1.glesys.net [46.21.96.129]
7 57 ms 50 ms 43 ms 79-99-4-12.serverhotell.net [79.99.4.12]
8 43 ms 43 ms 43 ms 91.228.193.179
9 44 ms 43 ms 44 ms www.sweden.se [31.192.231.167]

Trace complete.

From AirVPN Sweden to sweden.se

Tracing route to sweden.se [31.192.231.167]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 6 ms 2 ms 13 ms 192.168.55.1
2 40 ms 42 ms 42 ms 10.4.0.1
3 266 ms 212 ms 229 ms rif-vlan3022.cust.teknikbyran.com [178.248.30.129]
4 44 ms 41 ms 42 ms sesto0852-rc2.ip-only.net [82.99.0.53]
5 * 42 ms 42 ms 62.109.44.150
6 42 ms 43 ms 42 ms netnod-ix-ge-b-sth-4470.portlane.net [195.69.119.194]
7 43 ms 44 ms 42 ms be2-40g.cr1.sto1.se.portlane.net [80.67.4.186]
8 42 ms 42 ms * po-6.vbdc-cr1.glesys.net [193.108.196.44]
9 63 ms 51 ms 51 ms te-6-4.fbg-cr1.glesys.net [46.21.96.129]
10 51 ms 51 ms 51 ms 79-99-4-11.serverhotell.net [79.99.4.11]
11 53 ms 52 ms 51 ms 91.228.193.179
12 50 ms 50 ms 50 ms www.sweden.se [31.192.231.167]

Trace complete.

as51430 is registered to AltusHost however the country says NL . When visiting https://www.altushost.com/europe-data-centers/ you can find that an ip for their Swedish datacenter is 128.127.104.4

When you trace this IP you get:

Tracing route to swe-net-ip.as51430.net [128.127.104.4]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 36 ms 36 ms 35 ms swe-net-ip.as51430.net [79.142.77.4]
2 35 ms 36 ms 38 ms swe-net-ip.as51430.net [37.46.121.1]
3 39 ms 45 ms 35 ms swe-net-ip.as51430.net [128.127.104.4]

Trace complete.

I am no professional (yet) but doesn't it mean that at least some of their servers are really in those countries ?

Also I had last night a very strange conversation with their support. I asked if they owned the servers and did co-location or rented dedicated servers/VPS's and they tought I was talking about shared/dedicated Ip's.

When I asked if I might speek tech support he said he was tech support. I'll post the transcript later.

zhang888

Not sure how you got that IP, but as you mentioned before, their Sweden server is located in the U.S.

https://check-host.net/check-dns?host=se1.purevpn.net - 23.247.232.131

Normally you would call this a "mistake", unless in their case 90% of the locations are fake.

BSoD

Had a chat with them first added a transcript but wasn't copied right.

The guy I spoke didn't know the difference between VPS/dedicated server so I asked to speak tech support. Then he said I am tech support.

SO I prefer Air at least they know their servers

Edited ... by BSoD

BSoD

Indeed the swedish ISP isn't right.

But Germany, UK, Belgium, new-zealand are with right ISP's

And about which IP are you talking?

zhang888

Are you sure? Their Germany node is a cheap VPS from host1plus.com in Frankfurt, prices start from $2.5 per VPS/month.

inetnum:        5.175.204.0 - 5.175.204.255
netname:        DE-GHOSTNET-FRA-GN-HOSTING-VPS
descr:          GHOSTnet Network used for VPS Hosting Services

GHOSTnet's reseller for that range is host1plus.com.

The Belgium one is also hosted with host1plus.com, as traceroute shows, again with a fake whois trick.

NZ is fake, it is hosted with SwiftWay in U.S. (same datacenter where Air's server Persei is), with fake NZ whois trick.

UK was a real location, for a change.

When looking at this provider I can't think about anything else other than going thru a market in south-east Asia,

full of branded replicas of quality Italian brands like Armani and Gucci sold at very low prices as originals.

I guess the quality going to be the same, but your non-expert friends might take it as real, who knows

Had a chat with them first added a transcript but wasn't copied right.

The guy I spoke didn't know the difference between VPS/dedicated server so I asked to speak tech support. Then he said I am tech support.
SO I prefer Air at least they know their servers

Lol I find that quite amusing.

MersennePrime

I think I have never done so much homework like I did while searching for a trustworthy VPN service provider. When you look closer, the list of candidates gets cut down rapidly; many promises turn out to be either demonstrably false, like the ones mentioned here, or are likely .. lets say, embellishments.

At some point, you are down to a very short list and some new worry lines, because we can test only for positive results, the negative ones are undetermined: is the absence of condemning evidence truly evidence of its absence? We just don't know. In the end, it's always going to be a matter of trust and common sense: choose a service that works well and doesn't raise any red flags - and don't do anything seriously stupid regardless.

BSoD

Are you sure? Their Germany node is a cheap VPS from host1plus.com in Frankfurt, prices start from $2.5 per VPS/month.
inetnum:        5.175.204.0 - 5.175.204.255
netname:        DE-GHOSTNET-FRA-GN-HOSTING-VPS
descr:          GHOSTnet Network used for VPS Hosting Services

GHOSTnet's reseller for that range is host1plus.com.

The Belgium one is also hosted with host1plus.com, as traceroute shows, again with a fake whois trick.
NZ is fake, it is hosted with SwiftWay in U.S. (same datacenter where Air's server Persei is), with fake NZ whois trick.
UK was a real location, for a change.

When looking at this provider I can't think about anything else other than going thru a market in south-east Asia,
full of branded replicas of quality Italian brands like Armani and Gucci sold at very low prices as originals.
I guess the quality going to be the same, but your non-expert friends might take it as real, who knows

I Believe I have seen you detect which VPS package a server used with only IP. How did you do that?

Greetings BSoD

zhang888

There are no magic ways of doing that, but if you have any provider/IP in question you can post it here.

willieaames

Expressvpn does the same. I was using purevpn addon 'Dedicated Streaming' (review here) and it worked for Netflix but netflix cracked down all the dns services now.

flat4

Are you sure? Their Germany node is a cheap VPS from host1plus.com in Frankfurt, prices start from $2.5 per VPS/month.
inetnum:        5.175.204.0 - 5.175.204.255
netname:        DE-GHOSTNET-FRA-GN-HOSTING-VPS
descr:          GHOSTnet Network used for VPS Hosting Services

GHOSTnet's reseller for that range is host1plus.com.

The Belgium one is also hosted with host1plus.com, as traceroute shows, again with a fake whois trick.
NZ is fake, it is hosted with SwiftWay in U.S. (same datacenter where Air's server Persei is), with fake NZ whois trick.
UK was a real location, for a change.

When looking at this provider I can't think about anything else other than going thru a market in south-east Asia,
full of branded replicas of quality Italian brands like Armani and Gucci sold at very low prices as originals.
I guess the quality going to be the same, but your non-expert friends might take it as real, who knows
I Believe I have seen you detect which VPS package a server used with only IP. How did you do that?
Greetings BSoD

zhang888 is the "what's what" of vpn and who is using fake and stuff like that. he/she (dont know, no offense) know how to get this valuable data. What's most awesome about it, is he shares the info free of charge, great user that helps the rest of us.

Ricnvolved1956

Being technically challenged, I'm still trying to learn about this stuff. Before signing up with Air about this time last year, I had been with Hide My Ass! for 2 years. (I know, I know.... try to go easy on me. I didn't know any better.) Like a lot of people who don't know much about the technical ins and outs about what REALLY counts in choosing a VPN, I loved that HMA! had so many servers in so many different countries around the world. (I really thought I was a big turd in the internet toilet!) I never had any problems with HMA!, they were nice when I had any questions. But with a few months left in the second year of my subscription I began to wonder if I could do better. Having plenty of time to do a lot of research I found out about Air. Even with my limited technical knowledge, an inner voice was telling me these folks were on to something. Anyway, as the end of my subscription to HMA! got closer, they must've sensed I was thinking hard about jumping ship; they tried HARD to get me to re-up with an enticing discount for renewing for another year... sending me super friendly reminders in emails to renew... the glowing advantages of remaining with HMA!. Believe it when I say they bent over backwards with their charm offensive to keep me.

It didn't work. They never contacted me again after the final day of my subscription with them passed without me renewing. I swear to you I could almost sense their disappointment that they couldn't convince me to stay. MY only regret is that I didn't know about Air and used HMA! for 2 whole years. I just chalk it up as a part of the learning experience.

Even with my limited technical knowledge, I figured out something very, very important about choosing a VPN and email service. I've pointed this out in a couple of posts in other threads, but I can't emphasize this enough-- if you live in the U.S. like I do, you would have to be BRAIN DEAD to use any VPN or email service based in the U.S. The best available privacy and security features understandably come at some price point.... and anything "free" is quite likely going to be worse than useless. Do your due diligence. Research thoroughly, and take your time doing it. If you seriously want the best, you'll find it. The one thing I can promise without hesitation is that positive word-of-mouth advertising is more valuable than gold.

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