Casper31 73 Posted ... If you realize that whatsapp is more of the same as facebook (-problem) and you want to do something about it. Look for Signal app. Its opensource ,end to end encrypted and recommended by Bruce Schneier ,Matt Green and Edward Snowden. You can use the program on mobile ,but also on the desktop. Btw on the desktop you have text+voice only.The nice thing is you can use your keyboard.Some explanation from Tom Lawrence his channel :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM7cDTm3sCQTo set up the program in detail optional, not to use your private phone number:infosec//byteshttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfET6btFpe1e0CRGTFOulNg Gr,Casper 2 BlueYellowVanilla and Flx reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post
pawderypatty 0 Posted ... Signal is the only option in my opinion. WhatsApp is owned by Facebook and "borrowed" Signal's protocol. However WhatsApp stores much more metadata than Signal. Telegram isn't truly open source. Signal claims to only store your phone number and the last time you logged into their server. It's claimed that if a stingray is targeting you and you're using Signal, your communications will remain private. Quote Share this post Link to post
Casper31 73 Posted ... Signal is the only option in my opinion. WhatsApp is owned by Facebook and "borrowed" Signal's protocol. However WhatsApp stores much more metadata than Signal. Telegram isn't truly open source. Signal claims to only store your phone number and the last time you logged into their server. It's claimed that if a stingray is targeting you and you're using Signal, your communications will remain private. About the telephone number.You don`t need to use the phone number,you use during the day.Infosec shows you this with a seond phone.And there are more options. I don`t know if Whatsapp is end to end encrypted and do you to turn it on by you you self? Anothter thing ,you can use signal with a group . Have a good day,Casper Quote Share this post Link to post
pawderypatty 0 Posted ... Sometime last year (or it could've been two years ago now..) WhatsApp turned on end-to-end encryption for everyone (unlike Facebook messenger that implemented the protocol as well but force users to "create a secret/private chat" in able to use it. You're right; I forgot you don't need a phone number with Signal anymore. However, in the Netherlands they give away SIM cards for free (a bit suspicious if you ask me...) and so I just cycle a new signal # every month without dishing out any $ for said SIM. Signal has the option of a "Registration Lock," so you can set a password that's associated with your phone number. This prevents others from re-registering the same phone number as you (which would give a third party access to all your messages in real time without your knowledge). Signal also has the option of relaying call's through their server which would mask your IP address to the person you're calling. Awesome feature. Signal just implemented Censorship Circumvention as well- which is pretty self explanatory and a handy feature for authoritarian regime such as China where Signal is currently blocked. 5 Stars for Signal Quote Share this post Link to post
corrado 100 Posted ... If only it weren't so hard to convince other people to switch to Signal even though it is just as easy-to-use as Whatsapp..... 2 ruler2016 and BlueYellowVanilla reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post
Guest Posted ... Signal for voice calls 1 BlueYellowVanilla reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post
securvark 16 Posted ... And if people claim that Whatsapp is secure because it uses end to end encryption, explain to them that it only encrypts contents, not metadata. If they go silent, they probably don't know what metadata is, or don't understand that metadata is actually way more interesting to harvest than contents. Contents is usually >90% bullshit anyway (silly jokes, images, small talk), but metadata always contains valuable information that never lies. Metadata tells much more about you than contents. You can send your partner a chat message asking about dinner tonight, and if someone somehow caught that message, they know what you're having for dinner tonight. Great! They can send you ads . The metadata shows where you are (geolocation), what time you sent the message, to whom you sent it (info from your address book), when they replied, where they were when they replied, their info on you from their address book. If you send another message when you leave your location to go back home, they know how long you stayed. In fact, if you're walking around in some building with wifi mapped by Google, and you're sending a lot of messages all the time, they could theoretically track your whereabouts in that building and get the approximate times that you're spending in each place. 2 Flx and BlueYellowVanilla reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post