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Proxy.sh gets a gag order - How would airvpn react in such a case?

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https://torrentfreak.com/vpn-provider-proxy-sh-compromised-gag-order-160626/

 

VPN services have become an important tool to counter the growing threat of Internet surveillance. Encrypting one's traffic through a VPN connection helps to keep online communications private. But, what if your VPN service is compromised by a gag order? This is a question many Proxy.sh customers are asking themselves.

 

 

How would AirVPN react in such a case? Could they just shutdown the server?

The thing I don't get:

Proxy.sh is unser seychelle jurisdiction but they are forced to turn on logging on french server? Weired...

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Those is not the first time with this junk provider. Read this:

https://torrentfreak.com/proxy-sh-vpn-provider-monitored-traffic-to-catch-hacker-130930/

http://arstechnica.com/business/2013/11/shadowy-vpn-firm-says-theyve-got-industrys-first-transparency-report/

https://www.reddit.com/r/VPN/comments/1nctsm/proxysh_monitoring_servers_with_wireshark/

https://www.reddit.com/r/VPN/comments/1ne8qs/why_i_will_never_use_proxysh_and_you_shouldnt/

 

All that "Seychelles jurisdiction" is as fake as their GeoIP whois on the "52 countries" servers. Even

if they have some legal entity there, which cost a few thousands USD to register, it is probably clear

to you that the person running this service is most likely a US citizen.


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First of all, AirVPN would need a username to monitor a certain user. Which should be nearly impossible to know for the law enforcement. Atleast without doing illegal things. Then, if they would have the username and would force AirVPN to log traffic for user, then they could easily ban that person. You would think, why ban that person? Well, there have been no logs before, and now the person is banned, so there is nothing to keep logs of. Please correct me if im wrong

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First of all, AirVPN would need a username to monitor a certain user. Which should be nearly impossible to know for the law enforcement. Atleast without doing illegal things. Then, if they would have the username and would force AirVPN to log traffic for user, then they could easily ban that person. You would think, why ban that person? Well, there have been no logs before, and now the person is banned, so there is nothing to keep logs of. Please correct me if im wrong

 

Given that AirVPN is not under U.S. Government Jurisdiction and have terminated Italian servers to prevent legal complications, they can easily refuse to log for them and all the government could likely do is say they can't host servers in the US anymore, and even that is a long stretch on which I doubt they can do and given what AirVPN stands for even IF the U.S. government got the Italian government to work with them AirVPN would likely try to find a way to still have their service and refuse to cooperate or in worst case shut down temporarily and reopen with different name and/or different owner. Now this is mostly just speculation from my part on what AirVPN would do, only they can know for certain.

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my guess is that airvpn will follow the gag order unless the ACLU is fighting for them or the EFF

 

I'm curious as to what makes you say that, AirVPN has several times explained "Partition of trust" the primary reason for a gag order would be to catch someone in the act by making sure they don't know they are being watched but once they catch the one they want they HAVE to show the evidence and say where it came from, legally, at that point when revealed AirVPN did this they lose all credibility and their reputation to stand for net neutrality and privacy is shattered and many customers will leave and the news will keep spreading to other customers who are here because they trust AirVPN to keep their privacy which they can no longer do once they've complied with a gag order and monitors servers.

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I agree with salamander5182986621.  Another VPN provider that has caught my attention in this area is OVPN.se.  They provide Monthly transparency reports that contain a ton of applicable data.  Here's an example from last month.

 

I wish everyone would do something like this, at a bare minimum.

 

Summary

Our VPN servers had an uptime of over 99.5% during November. In total, OVPN encrypted and anonymized 1863 TB, which is slightly less than the traffic during the month of October.

During the month of November, we did not receive any requests from authorities. To date, we have never given out any customer data to a third party.

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