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ANSWERED If SSL Stops ISP From Knowing It's a VPN, How Does AirVPN know?

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Are there certain servers that it uses each time in order to have the ISP not know it's a VPN? I can see that this website knows what current server I'm logged into regardless of SSL, so are the servers static? If so, wouldn't they eventually garner a list that tells them what server connections are VPN connections?

Another question that perplexes me is that the router I currently have says what data is going through it in the way of a line graph. One of the measurements is labeled VPN. I've noticed that with the SSL enabled, the router still knows that it's a VPN connection to it. Why is that?


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All the SSL VPN connection protocol allows you to do is slip through standard network blocks by shielding the OpenVPN headers in your packets and replacing them with SSL headers, also your data is encrypted a second time in SSL format. Any IT shitlord with a grudge is going to know your using a VPN regardless of what ip your connecting to, as it will be the only ip you connect to and it will be a constant stream of encrypted data.

 

TL;DR: SSL only helps if no one is at their desk actively targeting you, which is good because contrary to popular belief i have found that to be rare. Either VPN blocks are done by settings (blocked ports) or DPI Boxes that look for OpenVPN headers.

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Ah, interesting, I really appreciate the response. Through my education of computers, networking was beyond a doubt the one that I gave least amount of care towards. Being a network admin to me seems akin to being in charge of the neighborhood water supply: 99.9% of the time, it's boring status quo as you babysit the precious resource. Then one day, while your bent over tying your shoelaces, the pipes spring a leak. By the time you straighten your back and realize what's going on, there's a mob outside with pitchforks and flame.

 

Thanks again for teaching what I ignored years ago.


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​Hello !

​I admire you for still managing to sound as jaded as an admin with 30 years of experience, despite apparently not giving much attention to networking

​"IT shitlord" was hilarious too.


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Being a network admin to me seems akin to being in charge of the neighborhood water supply: 99.9% of the time, it's boring status quo as you babysit the precious resource. Then one day, while your bent over tying your shoelaces, the pipes spring a leak. By the time you straighten your back and realize what's going on, there's a mob outside with pitchforks and flame.

 

You nailed it.


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