supersuspiciouscow 0 Posted ... Hello AirVPNAs stated in the title, I'm fairly new to this way of 'interneting' but hopefully this works out in the long run. My reason for joining AirVPN is due to my father working for my isp and I fear he may be spying on my downloads and internet browsing. I found this vpn via Reddit in search of ways to keep prying eyes out of my internet life. I guess I have just a few questions about just how private vpns are when it comes to things like that.-Am I really invisible from my isp?-What are the dangers of using VPNs?-Can an ISP bypass a VPN to access someone's searches?-How much can isp employees/supervisors see when looking at a client's internet usage?(If this isn't supposed to be on this forum please let me know T_T)Thank you in advanceSSC Quote Share this post Link to post
go558a83nk 362 Posted ... no, you're not invisible to your ISP. They just can't decode the encrypted connection between you and the VPN server. only danger I can think of are governments that deem them illegal no, your connection is encrypted. just make sure your DNS isn't leaking or they might have some idea what you are doing because they'd know the urls you've resolved. if you're using Eddie you're probably not leaking, especially if you use the network lock is your last question a repeat or do you mean regular usage not on a VPN? Quote Share this post Link to post
eyes878 43 Posted ... Anybody inspecting your traffic may be able to find out you are using a VPN and what VPN you are connecting to, but they will not be able to know what you are doing. As long as you make sure you are definitely connecting (not forgetting/not realising a disconnection etc) then your activities will be appropriately secure. An ISP cannot simply "bypass" a VPN as there is heavy encryption in place. If you have any more questions or situations, please ask. Quote Share this post Link to post
supersuspiciouscow 0 Posted ... no, you're not invisible to your ISP. They just can't decode the encrypted connection between you and the VPN server. only danger I can think of are governments that deem them illegal no, your connection is encrypted. just make sure your DNS isn't leaking or they might have some idea what you are doing because they'd know the urls you've resolved. if you're using Eddie you're probably not leaking, especially if you use the network lock is your last question a repeat or do you mean regular usage not on a VPN?I think you answered it pretty well. I was just worried about what all can be seen.I guess it would be best to explain more fully. My father works for comcast (supervisor) and I suspect that he has been informing my mother of all the things that I look up. Whether it be simple things like checking my email or bank account to more private things like the things I watch and personal conversations on the internet with people in forums. I don't want him to have even the NOTION that he knows what I'm doing. I am an adult. I shouldn't be monitored by them at this point in my life. Does AirVPN have built-in DNS leak protection or do I need to research a program for that? Quote Share this post Link to post
supersuspiciouscow 0 Posted ... Anybody inspecting your traffic may be able to find out you are using a VPN and what VPN you are connecting to, but they will not be able to know what you are doing. As long as you make sure you are definitely connecting (not forgetting/not realising a disconnection etc) then your activities will be appropriately secure. An ISP cannot simply "bypass" a VPN as there is heavy encryption in place. If you have any more questions or situations, please ask.Thank you! Quote Share this post Link to post
go558a83nk 362 Posted ... no, you're not invisible to your ISP. They just can't decode the encrypted connection between you and the VPN server. only danger I can think of are governments that deem them illegal no, your connection is encrypted. just make sure your DNS isn't leaking or they might have some idea what you are doing because they'd know the urls you've resolved. if you're using Eddie you're probably not leaking, especially if you use the network lock is your last question a repeat or do you mean regular usage not on a VPN?I think you answered it pretty well. I was just worried about what all can be seen.I guess it would be best to explain more fully. My father works for comcast (supervisor) and I suspect that he has been informing my mother of all the things that I look up. Whether it be simple things like checking my email or bank account to more private things like the things I watch and personal conversations on the internet with people in forums. I don't want him to have even the NOTION that he knows what I'm doing. I am an adult. I shouldn't be monitored by them at this point in my life. Does AirVPN have built-in DNS leak protection or do I need to research a program for that? go to ipleak.net to check if DNS is leaking. Quote Share this post Link to post
cm0s 118 Posted ... good to meet ya every network is diff just keep googling and try to mod for your threat model Quote Share this post Link to post
OpenSourcerer 1435 Posted ... -How much can isp employees/supervisors see when looking at a client's internet usage? The only ones who know the answer to this are employees at ISPs. In Europe, being able to look at a client's internet usage is illegal. Quote Hide OpenSourcerer's signature Hide all signatures NOT AN AIRVPN TEAM MEMBER. USE TICKETS FOR PROFESSIONAL SUPPORT. LZ1's New User Guide to AirVPN « Plenty of stuff for advanced users, too! Want to contact me directly? All relevant methods are on my About me page. Share this post Link to post
OmniNegro 155 Posted ... If you are using the Eddie client for AirVPN, then unless you set it not to, it will use AirVPN's own DNS servers and the odds of there being a leak are greatly decreased. But as go558a83nk said, you should still check for yourself. ipleak.net is your friend. Quote Hide OmniNegro's signature Hide all signatures Debugging is at least twice as hard as writing the program in the first place.So if you write your code as clever as you can possibly make it, then by definition you are not smart enough to debug it. Share this post Link to post
S.O.A. 83 Posted ... -How much can isp employees/supervisors see when looking at a client's internet usage? The only ones who know the answer to this are employees at ISPs. In Europe, being able to look at a client's internet usage is illegal. You're right giganerd it's "illegal" (NSA and BND) Quote Share this post Link to post
zhang888 1066 Posted ... Depending on which employee, but the amount of data an average ISP employee has access to is very limited and hardto pin-point. Unless you are in the actual networking/abuse department or the law enforcement assistance department(in larger ISPs). But no one with a clear mind will risk his job and a potential civil/criminal offense in order to "spy" onyour relatives, this doesn't make any sense. The amounts of data pushed thru an ISP is huge, and any post-event analysis is very hard, since all those terabits persecond has to be stored somewhere and analyzed. An evil employee can push specific routes and assign fixed IPs andDNS servers in order to attach them to a Netflow device at a later point, but this will again make it too much of a conspiracy. Quote Hide zhang888's signature Hide all signatures Occasional moderator, sometimes BOFH. Opinions are my own, except when my wife disagrees. Share this post Link to post
OpenSourcerer 1435 Posted ... -How much can isp employees/supervisors see when looking at a client's internet usage?The only ones who know the answer to this are employees at ISPs. In Europe, being able to look at a client's internet usage is illegal.You're right giganerd it's "illegal" (NSA and BND) Well, it is. They just couldn't care less about laws. (Sent via Tapatalk - this generally means I'm not sitting in front of my PC) Quote Hide OpenSourcerer's signature Hide all signatures NOT AN AIRVPN TEAM MEMBER. USE TICKETS FOR PROFESSIONAL SUPPORT. LZ1's New User Guide to AirVPN « Plenty of stuff for advanced users, too! Want to contact me directly? All relevant methods are on my About me page. Share this post Link to post
supersuspiciouscow 0 Posted ... Depending on which employee, but the amount of data an average ISP employee has access to is very limited and hardto pin-point. Unless you are in the actual networking/abuse department or the law enforcement assistance department(in larger ISPs). But no one with a clear mind will risk his job and a potential civil/criminal offense in order to "spy" onyour relatives, this doesn't make any sense. The amounts of data pushed thru an ISP is huge, and any post-event analysis is very hard, since all those terabits persecond has to be stored somewhere and analyzed. An evil employee can push specific routes and assign fixed IPs andDNS servers in order to attach them to a Netflow device at a later point, but this will again make it too much of a conspiracy.Well, that's alleviated then. Quote Share this post Link to post
supersuspiciouscow 0 Posted ... i feel yer pain brahh, more than you knowhang in there cm0sI appreciate this ^ Quote Share this post Link to post
cm0s 118 Posted ... it ain't nuthin for an employee or contractor at an isp to pull xyz up on their screenespecially if they already know what to look for and under what contact info what i'd do is grab toss away hardware, build some linux boxes off your lan, never associate that hardware to your localsame with any phones, keep what ya got but grab toss away and just send txt with whatever passes and keyskeep your current hardware and keep the use about the same so nothing looks out of the ordinarysnag some alfa cards and borrow the farthest local you can (with permission of course)do not log into any accounts from your toss away full disk encrypted blah blah boxset up an email account maybe countermail and use calyx institute's xmpp server for chit chatvia ssl/openvpn/tor, forgot to mention, i wouldn't use the same vpn account on the toss away hardware Quote Share this post Link to post